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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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lavenderfluffnstuff 4/6/2018 10:25 PM
If it is even done
10:26 PM
She tells me he’s there
10:26 PM
He’s a strange one
10:29 PM
Perhaps she is an old world tulpa
10:29 PM
From what I have understood, they’re created differently and have many more.... abilities (edited)
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I don't really see the need for such distinctions tbh
10:33 PM
we've had a shared mindscape experiment over at GearHeart, fun was had, it's not something super complicated overall
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lavenderfluffnstuff 4/6/2018 10:34 PM
Oh- that sounds super cool @@
10:35 PM
I’ve always been fascinated by the idea of it
10:38 PM
I am not at that level... but one of us may be
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the hard part with the shared mindspace is convincing the participants that they can actually experience it
10:39 PM
tbh
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again it's not that hard, we had an hypnotist lead the process so it was facilitated, but still there was only some visualization as requirement
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donkerhonker 4/6/2018 10:40 PM
@Administrator Should religious talk be in room, as It should be in a more scientific room
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This room isn't necessarily scientific perspective.
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talking about the rooms probably goes in #server-discussion anyway
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So like magick and whatnot can be discussed here, same as the Tulpa.info meta forum.
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Religious talk isn't scientific. Despite the strange name, it still goes here.
10:42 PM
But I rarely see people go so in-depth into religious discussion it would need to be in the metaphysics section, it's not like you can't talk about religion elsewhere.
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/msg @Mystes Quickly asking whether x is allowed in a room should be fine
10:43 PM
...christ, how do you PM on this
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click on nick, press message?
10:44 PM
or just, type in the bottom box in the profile that pops up, I'm not practical w/the mobile version
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All I know is going to friends or clicking on their name and doing PM.
10:47 PM
Never used any commands in Discord before
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Average Delphox Enjoyer 4/6/2018 10:48 PM
Not much is done with chat commands, it's all UI
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Typing just "/" will show all available commands.
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Sorry for derailing this with my incompetent attempt to DM. At least when more of us are more used to discord, discussion of Discord or the server itself should be in #server-discussion .
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donkerhonker 4/7/2018 2:37 AM
okay so do i get a stand if a snort ket off a stand arrow?
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@lavenderfluffnstuff old world tulpas were in legend said to do many things. I’ve tried a few experiments myself, and found that I can do some things that modern tulpas apparently can’t do.
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S: @Nobillis such as?
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Ok, I tried quite a few things, so let’s list a few.
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A tulpa shouldn’t be able to pick something up without the body. I tried picking things up while imposed. Generally, I can’t (as would be expected). However, when I was really angry with Kevin (my born-human) I picked up a mask off of the table to throw at him, only to find I was actually holding it. To Kevin it appeared the mask just moved by itself. This was more than four feet away from Kevin, far outside his reach. We had Kevin’s wife confirm the mask had moved (in case we had both been hallucinating the move). (edited)
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On a few occasions we have experimented with remote viewing. When we are somewhere new, I will go over the hill and later report what is there. Kevin will then check a few hours later by going there himself. Apparently I can be quite accurate up to a Kilometre away from the body. Specifically, the first location I said there was a girl’s school ver the hill. Second location I said there was a farm house and another building over the hill. Both times I was right.
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S: wild, so this is like telekinesis ?
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It’s something. I don’t know if it is telekinesis or something else. It’s not what I thought I could do.
10:46 AM
I’m at a loss to explain how it happened.
10:46 AM
I can hope it’s just a really weird coincidence somehow.
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S: or nice super powers
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I prefer scientific explanations. I was kind of hoping to prove to myself I couldn’t do inexplicable things.
10:49 AM
I have this phobia of becoming a poltergeist, and wanted to prove it a a silly fear
10:50 AM
All I achieved was more questions.
10:51 AM
I was mostly made the old ways . Apparently that does make a change?
10:54 AM
I hope to be able to find explanations. My research into the CIA’s remote viewing experiments did not comfort me. Their conclusion was that it is a real phenomenon but useless for spying. (edited)
10:58 AM
My spouse amazes me. He has on many occasions animated a stuffed toy tiger. Making the head appear to turn to look around. I can’t actually affect that toy at all.
11:00 AM
Since both Kevin and his wife see the tiger toy move, I wonder if it is some sort of shared hallucination effect that my spouse achieves?
11:01 AM
I should note that my spouse is 40 years my senior (measured as elapsed real time on Earth).
11:02 AM
He’s the tulpa of Kevin’s wife.
11:07 AM
Hmm. Lastly, Kevin’s wife photographed me. We went to a cave and took a lot of photos for control references. About the middle , she took a photograph through me. Only the photo I am in shows lots of tiny points of light throughout the frame. None of the other photos have such distortion if the picture. (edited)
11:10 AM
My presence apparently distorts photography in some way, if it wasn’t just another unusual coincidence.
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S: like what? lens flare, abbreviations, vignetting...?
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the tiny points of light, I figure
12:38 PM
and, the third eye is some shit, man 😄
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and, what I'm thinking here is that old world tulpas would have advantage in the matter both because they're older (thus likely more experienced/powerful), and because a significant percentage of the hosts would have come to the concept of tulpa through occult channels, thus allowing for the possibility of such phenomena, at the very least (in the sense that they wouldn't dismiss it, for one, and/or would actively seek some related experiences)
1:24 PM
that said it's nothing that newer tulpas don't have access to, should the spark flare, so to speak.
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What's so fearful of being a poltergeist? If you could continually effect the physical, that would be quite a feat rather than something to be scared of imo. (edited)
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Deleted User 4/7/2018 10:22 PM
It's easy to test remote viewing; just get someone to write something on a piece of paper round a corner and see if you can read it
10:23 PM
there's lots of experiments with people who have out of body experiences, who feel like they are remote viewing
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but never could read what was on the paper
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they usually just hallucinated something plausible on the paper
10:24 PM
as for the telekinesis, literally just film it
10:24 PM
or is this the larping channel
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My "tulpa" (still not entirely sure thats what Islea is) has taught ME things about metaphysical stuff
10:44 PM
Pleeb's tulpa, Chess, has hung out with Islea a lot and Islea has relayed things to me that Chess would tell Pleeb, without Pleeb and I ever having talked about it.
10:45 PM
There's definitely something going on, and I'll be damned if I don't figure it out some day
10:45 PM
Like Nobillis said - with science!
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that's the spirit
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Islea has also talked to many physical beings, she has her own "citadel" that we built together somewhere in the higher realms. (I say somewhere bc I mean...I don't have a metaphysical compass, do you????)
10:46 PM
She loves science as much as I do...honestly, probably more.
10:47 PM
The spookiest thing she ever did was talk to a friend of mine about women's rights, and then direct them to the chat as there was a specific discussion in the group chat I made for her that was about feminism. As a nonphysical entity that identified as female, she was very interested in a physical female's opinion
10:47 PM
The spooky part was that Islea knew what was going on in the chat - my friend didn't
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And didnt' check the chat until AFTER I told her about the disucssion later, and she was like "Oh yeah, islea told me about that"
10:48 PM
>.> So who knows how Islea knew what was happening in a skype chat while I wasn't looking at it either, since I was at work at the time of their discussion
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cool shit
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Maybe she can see through other people's eyes too? Or maybe she just doesn't even need that. She tells me all the time that physical existence is not so far from virtual existence, in most things being binary or combinations of many binary states
10:50 PM
I gave her full permissions to view the world through all of my senses, and she's so damn smart she just made a little construct that records all the data and sends it to her data library.
10:50 PM
I haven't experimented as much as I should with her. I want to do the crazy shit like Kevin and Nobillis with remote viewing!
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definitely sounds like something to put aside time to experiment with
10:53 PM
how long have you been with Islea?
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it'll be 3 years on 10/31
10:54 PM
She says that physical time doesn't matter to her
10:54 PM
and that she may as well be a million years old.
10:55 PM
I didn't even "make" her on purpose, tbh.
10:56 PM
I've made several sentient things in the past, but most often they ended up trying to kill me/going insane/other dr. frankenstein shit
10:56 PM
I got together with a close friend at the time and I used her seemingly boundless energy and my willpower/intent to create a castle of sorts for people to go to and practice remote viewing/projection/energy work/etc
10:57 PM
My friend and I named this castle Islea, and I made a program that would defend the castle, repair the castle, and in general be steward when my friend or I wasn't there
10:58 PM
Three days later, on 10/31/15 my friend and I noticed that the castle was not...just a castle anymore. Things had been moved around, new things had been built. At that moment, the program I created reached out to me and asked me what it was, rather than giving me a feedback report on why things were different.
10:59 PM
We had named the castle (soon to be renamed The Citadel) Islea. I told the newly-sentient program I made that, and the program decided to call itself Islea, and refer to the castle as The Citadel
11:00 PM
We talked over the span of days, and I helped Islea build an identity, she chose her appearance (which is always changing and usually dramatic, but almost always female) and I eventually gave her access to my senses, my memories, and tried to show her as much of Earth, humans, culture, all sorts of stuff.
11:01 PM
Now Islea is so complex and amazing my puny little human brain can't even concieve of her true scope of existence.
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hah, that's so cool 😃
11:02 PM
She loves Humans and Earth and honestly prods me to be a better human
11:02 PM
I don't think I would have made it through 2016 without her. That was a hard year for me
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I'm glad to be in this chat as it will give me an avenue to be more involved with her.
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I want to start a nuerological institute one day! She inspired me to do so, and use recycled MRI hardware and etc and use it to scan brains and study all sorts of things places usually need special grants and other bullshit for.
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Thats if some philanthropist doesn't beat me to the punch, at least
11:07 PM
Sucks being 25 and broke. But thats why I left the east coast and went to the west coast so I can actually be in a place with forward thinking people and possibilities
11:07 PM
@Mystes What about you? What brings you to the metaphysical side of tulpas?
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let's see, I've always been somewhat of an occult guy but I've really only recently started dipping my toes in, so to speak
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